Travel alert November 15-16

railway tracks

making tracks

Track work at Goodwick – good news for everyone – means unavoidable travel disruption for travellers to or from Fishguard on November 15/16.



1:50, 6:53 and 8:04 trains run as normal.

9:56, 13:30, 19:00 and 20:50 are CANCELLED

These replacement buses will run:

Fishguard     10:15  13:30  20:50

Carmarthen 11:40  14:55  22:15

Connections at Carmarthen will be to later trains than normal.


1:50, 6:53, 8:04, 9:56 are CANCELLED

13:30 onwards trains as normal

These replacement buses will run:

Fishguard            2:00  7:30  10:15

Haverfordwest              8:10

Carmarthen        3:26               11:40

Connections at Carmarthen will be to later trains than normal. Note the connection at Haverfordwest.



Arrivals at 9:46, 13:25, 18:29, 1:29 are CANCELLED

These replacement buses will run:

Carmarthen                    12:45                    00:35

Whitland             9:07

Haverfordwest                             18:45

Fishguard         10:12   14:10   19:25        2:00

Note the connection at Haverfordwest.


Arrivals at 6:44, 7:58 and 9:46 are CANCELLED

13:25 arrival onwards trains as normal

These replacement buses will run:

Whitland                            9:07

Haverfordwest  6:45

Fishguard            7:25    10:12

Note the connection at Haverfordwest.

Check the Arriva links on the right before travelling!


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8 Responses to Travel alert November 15-16

  1. Anthony

    Good to see that network rail are putting the track back to its original position closer to the platform at Fishguard & goodwick station.

    I look forward to actually being able to catch a train to goodwick station in 2012, hopefully on the 1st day of opening.

    • Rhydgaled

      So, the track will be moved back into alignment with the platform by 13:25 on 16th November, in under 29hrs 20mins work? Now, obviously there will still be work to do on the platform itself, which will take far longer, but will possession of the line be required again before the station can be opened?

      Between the dark day of August 24th and the much brighter (metorphoriclly) September 12th, about 432hrs ellapsed (18 days times 24 hours). Why couldn’t this 30hr closure have occoured during that period, when Fishguard still had only two trains a day? If it had been done then, it might have been the opening of the station, rather than start of work on it, which we would be celebrateing on 15th November. Perhaps, just perhaps, (and if the promise of a replica building from the council’s historic building conservation is held) that would have been enough to make the loss of over a hundred years of history acceptable. Sadly this is not the case, which puts a severe dampener on my joy at the progress Fishguard’s railway has made this year, September 12th being, as Swansea Jack puts it superbly, like Christmas come early.

  2. Swansea Jack

    Great to see the hard work that’s happened behind the scenes has paid off. I’m looking forward to viewing progress on the track slewing (re-aligning) next Tuesday evening, and would certainly expect to be on the first train into or out of Goodwick on opening day. I’d imagine I’d be on the 05:50 from Carmarthen to Goodwick that morning, and then head back South on the return working.

    It’s really great to see things progressing – it feels like Christmas has come early – twice so far this year!!

  3. Swansea Jack

    Rhydgaled. I suspect you have little understanding of how things are progressed in the world of Civil Engineering. firstly we are all aware that the announcement by IW Jones back in the Spring was for funding of the train service with no funding for the capital project i.e. Goodwick station. A great deal of hard work, in extremely difficult financial times must have happened to get to the stage where funding for the feasibility study could be progressed, and then secondly to fund the trackwork which is to happen next week, and the remained of the Civils work needed prior to reopening.

    Until that funding was secured no-one was going to plan, or carry out the engineering work. Unfortunately it appears there was insufficient time after funding was secured to carry out that work prior to September 12th. Realistically we are very, very fortunate to be getting this far so quickly, and certainly should be praising everyone involved in progressing the station issue thus far.

    Your constant referral to the demolition of the old building makes me suspect that you either hadn’t viewed the old structure in detail or that you have little appreciation of structural mechanics. I have both, and as I’ve highlighted previously, much as I wanted the old 1899 North Pembs & Fishguard Railway structure to survive into the future there really was no chance at all that what structure that remained this Summer could possibly be repaired.

    I was born overlooking the old station and have followed its decay in detail since the early 1980s, its loss is really a shame, but in all seriousness it has not dampened my joy at the rapid progress that has been made so far, and the hoped for completion of reopening of (Fishguard &) Goodwick – the first reopening in West Wales since Penally reopened in the early 1970s.

    I thank everyone from Network Rail, Arriva Trains Wales, Pembrokeshire C.C., SWWITCH, the Welsh Government, the North Pembs Transport Forum, the launch day organisers, and those others behind the scenes who have helped progress this whole scheme (trains and station) for the last 12 years or more in some cases. Many, many thanks to you all.

    • Rhydgaled

      I appreciate the difficult financial situation, and that it means we are lucky to be getting Fishguard & Goodwick station, in any form. I also admit to having little appreciation of structural mechanics. HOWEVER, I did take quite an interest in the building in the past year and a bit and from my un-informed observations came to the conclusion that, while most of the building could not possibly be repaired, the wall facing the line might have been salvagable. That said, due to my poor knowlage of these things, I would not have been supprised if the structural engineer’s wrote that wall off too. Had they done so, I might not be so upset.

      I was fairly supprised when their actual comments, under option three, actually broadly agreed with my observations. They said significant sections were beyond repair, with the roof, floor, two external walls (the one facing away from the line and the south gable) and one internal one requiring complete replacement. Additionally, they said significant reconstruction of the north gable wall would also have been required. However, the wall facing the line they said appeared ‘to be in a reasonable condition’ but that a more detailed inspection would have been required, ‘particularly in the vicinity of the sole plate where a number of adjacent timer joists are noted to have decayed.’ My poor structural knowlage means I do not fully understand that, but the final paragraph of their option 3 does list the wall as one of three sections of the orrignal building that may have been saved. The structural engineers also suggested that it would have been possible to hold the wall up while the other parts of the building which held it up were replaced.

      All this returns us to the issue of funding. Yes saving parts of the building would have cost more than the current project and, in hindsight, the one decent wall would have probably sat on it’s supports taking up platform space until the end of the trial before anyone would agree to fund the construction of the three walls around it. That suggests demolition, had it been treated correctly, could have been considered a sensible decision. In other words, I am starting to think that perhaps the best thing to have done, putting emotional and historic considerations aside, would have been to demolish the building and start work immediately to get the station open quickly, then commence work on a replica building straight away if the trial is a success. However they didn’t make use of the safe working environment demolition of the building allowed to start work straight away. In the time that has elapsed, they could have put supports in place to make the area safe in time to start work on November 15th as they are going to, while saving parts of the building. Before you bring up the difficulty of securing funding again, a lot of security fencing, multiple workers and some large machinery were brought in to demolish the building, so by this point funding for a building-less station must have been agreed. Rather a waste of money for the council if they then decided not to go ahead and re-open. So why didn’t they start work almost straight away (as a bonus I’d guess Network Rail would have charged slightly less for the track re-alignment if they had only to pay ATW for two cancelled services rather than quite a few) and get the station open sooner (it probably wouldn’t have been by September 12th, but we’d be getting very close by now, if it hadn’t already opened).

      Alternatively, that extra time could have been used to seek some form of heritage funding to save the building, for example from the heritage lottery fund or the Railway Heritage Trust (although I appreciate that, since the station was no longer owned by BRB Residuary, the latter may have declined to even consider the application). Had funding not been forthcoming, the demolition team could then have been brought in (at least then the council would have tried to save parts of the structure), still before the Nov 15th start of work.

      The council’s failure to make use of the removal of the potentially dangerous building to get work underway at once forms a large part of the cause of my displeasure.

  4. Anthony

    I look forward to seing the fruit of all the work which has been put in by everyone who are working hard to make sure that this trial service is a sucess.

    So I would also like to pass my thanks to supporters and the local council etc now lets hope passenger numbers will continue to rise.

    I have helped to do my bit by pointing out the new additional trains to freinds and relatives I even dropped off a few of the fishguard train leaflets at my local library in Pyle especially with the club 55 promotion going on it might encourage some of the oap’s to visit fishguard.

  5. Swansea Jack

    Great to see the replaced trackwork back against the old platform at (Fishguard &) Goodwick this afternoon. Re-ballasting will be followed by tamping through the night. Services should resume with the 10:54 Cardiff to Fishguard and the afternoon boat train tomorrow.

    Well done to Network Rail, its contractors, and all those involved in making all this happen. An ex-resident of Main Street, Goodwick is a happy bunny this evening!!

  6. Anthony

    Great good photos.

    Now all we need to see is some station signs and a waiting shelter.

    Ow And a train actually stopping at the station.

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