Fishguard already losing out?

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Fishguard’s new rail service could be losing out on valuable ticket sales – and passengers missing travel bargains – because of the delay in publishing our new rail timetable.

Alistair Lees, managing director of rail ticketing site (launched in 2010), says: “Half of all rail passengers are paying over the odds for leisure journeys such as going away for the weekend by train.

“A simple guide for leisure train travel is that the earlier you book your ticket, the bigger the saving available. Leaving it until you arrive at the station means you can end up paying several times more than the person sitting next to you in the carriage. The cheapest rail fares are available 12 weeks in advance when the train operating companies release their timetables.”

Nationwide rail tickets are already on sale through to late September, but no tickets for the Fishguard service starting September 12th can be bought – because the train times have still not been published.

The Welsh Government met Arriva following the consultation, and their Rail Unit tells Fishguard Trains: “once … the timetable is agreed, then ATW will able to publish timetables”. Arriva Trains Wales has not yet told Fishguard Trains when it plans to publish.

Meanwhile the opportunity to buy affordable tickets for the first month of our service slips by.


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4 Responses to Fishguard already losing out?

  1. Rhydgaled

    Advance tickets don’t often seem to be available in West Wales anyway. I’ve just looked on the East Coast website and there aren’t any for Fishguard or Whitland to Cardiff. Previously, I’ve found that, from Whitland, only journeys beyond Cardiff that use only Arriva services (so no going to Portsmouth or Havant) seemed to have advance tickets. If you’re only going to Cardiff or changing there onto a First Great Western service you had to pay the full walk-up fare no matter how early you purchased the tickets. I’m not sure if this is still the case though.

    I hope the delay in publishing the timetable for our new service means they are looking at plugging that 5hr+ gap. That gap is much more of a worry than lost opertunities to buy advance tickets which would not be available for most if not all journeys within Wales anyway.

    • Spad

      Let me try and convince you:
      Go to (see link here on the right) and search for a single ticket on September 12th from Haverfordwest to Manchester.
      It offers Advance tickets at 9:23 £28, 11:23 £16, 13:23 £16, 15:23 £16, 17:23 £16, 19:23 £16.
      Now do the same from Fishguard to Manchester.
      It offers an Anytime Single at 13:30 for £67.90.
      Yet the preferred timetable offered by Welsh Government in the consultation features a through train from Fishguard to Manchester leaving at 8:06 from September 12th onwards. Once that’s confirmed and tickets finally go on sale, there will surely be an Advance option at £16 to match the through service from Haverfordwest.
      The point is, until the timetable is published, anyone looking for affordable tickets from Pembrokeshire will continue to avoid Fishguard.
      Not clever.

      • Rhydgaled

        Oh, it is certainly a bit of a problem.

        What I am saying is: this is only a problem for those who want to go further than Cardiff (and possibly not even then if it involves a change of train operator), as you can’t seem to get advance tickets for a shorter journey from Whitland/Fishguard to Cardiff.

        Therefore, it is my opinion that if this delay in publishing the timetable means the timetable is being improved (and when eventually published will be better than the one that was consulted on) it will be worth the loss of advance tickets for the first 12 weeks of the service.

  2. Constance

    Well done Fishguard Trains, without your vigilance and attention, the various providers would have lost one of our trains, failed to publish a timetable, made mistakes in the publishing of the eventual timetable, failed to get buses and trains to co-ordinate and provide a joined up service for the local residents, visitors and community charge payers. On that note , just who is being paid to provide this service? Am I right in assuming that the Fishguard Trains research and input is voluntary and that those making one mistake after another are being paid out of our community charge?



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